Down and out…

No hope.

Just a single bottle of Rosé between them.


That doesn’t sound right?


Anyway, that’s where Jess and Nat found themselves after leaving a start-up marketing agency a few years back.

But instead of sloping back to the world of 9-5, they picked up their bottle of ‘Street Rosé’ and founded their own agency instead.

Thus was born Mac & Moore.

Years later they’re doing wonderful things.

And they’re doing them in their own way.

It was an absolute pleasure to catch up with them for episode fourteen of The All Good Copy Podcast.

We talked about their influences, their strengths and weaknesses and what it’s like to face the many gender biases in the marketing industry.

I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed speaking to them.

You can check out the episode here:

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Jess MacIntyre and Natalie Moores are the founders of Mac & Moore, a creative marketing agency based in London, UK. You can find out more about the services they provide by visiting their website here.

Glenn Fisher is an author, speaker and copywriter. His first book, The Art of the Click is an Amazon bestseller and is published by Harriman House. It’s available now on Amazon here.

How to Write Better Copy by Steve Harrison is available on Amazon here.

You can find out more about Joanne Abeyie’s work by following her on Twitter here.

How the be a Woman by Caitlin Moran is available on Amazon here.

Creative Blindness by Dave Trott is available on Amazon here.

You can find out more about Diane Arbus here.

Portrait of the Artist as a Young Girl is available on Amazon here.

Strangeland by Tracey Emin is available on Amazon here

If you enjoy the episode please do share it around with your friends and colleagues.

And if you’re able to leave a nice review on iTunes, that would be a huge help.


Glenn Fisher is an author, copywriter, podcaster and speaker. After a number of years working in the local council, he left to become a copywriter and founded, a free online resource for direct response copywriters and marketers. For over a decade he worked with The Agora, a multi-million pound international financial publisher before leaving in 2018 to write freelance. His first book, The Art of the Click, has quickly become an Amazon bestseller and was shortlisted for the Business Book Awards. He is the host of the popular All Good Copy Podcast and regularly writes and consults for numerous businesses, brands and ad agencies. He lives happily with his partner Ruth and dog Pablo on the east coast of England.

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