There’s no such thing as ‘diverse’ talent.

There’s just talent.

That’s part of the message my latest guest is trying to get out there and hopefully, our conversation will help spread it in some small way.

Indeed, it’s an absolute pleasure to share this latest episode of The All Good Copy Podcast with you, in which I talk to entrepreneur, campaigner and journalist, Joanna Abeyie.

Joanna runs a firm that helps companies in the creative industry tackle the challenges of diversity. She helped found the APPG for Creative Diversity. And she speaks around the world.

I found her story fascinating and without being too waffy about it, inspiring too. Maybe I’m getting soft in my old age, but I find it nice when people are nice. So, there you go.

We talk about understanding the challenges people from different backgrounds face, why diversity is a troublesome word and how to have more self-confidence.

I hope you find it as interesting as I did recording it.

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NOTES ON THE PODCAST

Joanna Abeyie is an award-winning entrepreneur, campaigner and journalist. She speaks about diversity all around the world and is currently helping businesses in the creative industry to help make their recruitment more diverse. In 2019, she also helped create the APPG for Creative Diversity. You can follow her on Twitter here.

Glenn Fisher is an author, copywriter, podcaster and speaker. His first book, The Art of the Click is an Amazon bestseller and was shortlisted for the Business Book Awards 2019. It’s published by Harriman House and available now on Amazon here.

You can watch Joanna’s TedX talk in Oman on YouTube here.

You can find out more about and follow the APPG for Creative Diversity on Twitter here.

The Chimp Paradox by Prof Steve Peters is available on Amazon here.

I Heart Me by David R. Hamilton is available on Amazon here.

The Fight by Normal Mailer is available on Amazon here.

Keep The Aspidistra Flying by George Orwell is available on Amazon here.

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Author

Glenn Fisher is an author, copywriter, podcaster and speaker. After a number of years working in the local council, he left to become a copywriter and founded AllGoodCopy.com, a free online resource for direct response copywriters and marketers. For over a decade he worked with The Agora, a multi-million pound international financial publisher before leaving in 2018 to write freelance. His first book, The Art of the Click, has quickly become an Amazon bestseller and was shortlisted for the Business Book Awards. He is the host of the popular All Good Copy Podcast and regularly writes and consults for numerous businesses, brands and ad agencies. He lives happily with his partner Ruth and dog Pablo on the east coast of England.

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